Interview with Jean Luc Robin
Hello Jean-Luc Robin, and thanks for having been so kind as to answer our
questions about your next work for
WM: You form part of the privileged witnesses, insofar as you reside in
Rennes for many years, permanent developments of "the business". Our first
question will be thus this one: is your work a book of testimonies or defend
there a thesis which is new for you?
JLR: Both! It is a book of testimonies which swarms with lived anecdotes.
Through these authentic anecdotes, one is able to have an idea of the psychology
of impassioned of Rennes-le-Chateau. I recall the evolution of the business
there since my account does not stop with dead Saunière but covers until these
last months. The eleven years that I passed to RLC, and mainly the six years of
occupation of the field of the abbot placed me at the intersection of a crowd of
information of which I unpack in my lines "substantial marrow". It is also the
development of a thesis of which I am however not the inventor. Despite
everything, and in all modesty, I think of having managed to format it in a
clear manner and logic which gives desire for believing in it. This known as I
make certainly as many errors as my predecessors and I know that one awaits me
WM: The foreword is signed by Henry Lincoln. Is this with saying that you are
a follower of the "crowned geography"?
JLR: Henry Lincoln, who is a very good friend, nicely agreed to write the
foreword of my book from which I extract this sentence: "All the other authors,
of which myself, seized only one shade of what true life of Béranger Saunière
was it. Jean-Luc, felt to him. He lived it. This is why this book has something
moreover to offer." This known as I am not a "follower" of the crowned geometry
(unless it does not act of one crowned geometry). Moreover I hate this term "of
follower" with all that it transports of sectarian connotation. However work of
Henry is sometimes astonishing and in many exact points. Being of a curious
naturalness I cannot remain indifferent there. Henry also proposed to me to
translate my book into English if an editor of in addition to Manche is
interested in it.
WM: In the "good sheets" that you gave us to read, you often reconsider a
"dynastic secrecy". Can you say some to us more?
JLR: If by "dynastic secrecy" it is necessary to hear some skeleton in the
wall cupboard concerning a great reigning family (in fact Habsbourg) it is not
the topic of my book. The theory that I defend attach to show that Habsbourg
financed Saunière in exchange of a secrecy. From this postulate it is natural to
wonder about the nature of this secrecy. If it relates to documents it could
not, obviously, not to act of a note of laundry! The Emperor of Austria being
the guard of Rome it is rather in this direction that it would be necessary to
seek. Not having unfortunately an evidence to bring I abstain from erecting
scaffolding of the assumptions and I leave this care with others.
WM: You see, with length of year, to ravel "hordes" of visitors with
Rennes-le-Chateau. Which is your personal "typology" of these visitors?
JLR: There is not single "typology" of the visitors of RLC. The large
majority of the public intended to speak about the mystery of a priest and her
good which found a treasure and comes by curiosity. Then there is all the fauna
of impassioned which generally continues a monologue and are convinced to be
alone to know the secrecy. For a long time they were treasure hunters and that I
know, to date, none found the beginning of the tail of one louis gold!
For a few years, the researchers of a material treasure have seen themselves
outdistanced on the ground by the crowd of the mysticos-nutcases. The
work of Lincoln, Baigent and Leigh "the crowned enigma" is not foreign there.
This phenomenon at known last season a blow of accelerator following the
publication of the code da Vinci and of its questioning of teaching of the
church. One could observe a clear increase in visitors in source, on the one
hand, country where the Catholic Church has, during years, exerted an influence
without division (Spain, Italy, Portugal). In addition new "customers" unloaded
on the hill inspired. They are in general groups of baited, generally
Californian feminists and vegetarians who are in the search of Marie Madeleine
of which they made their door standard.
WM: One speaks much about an effect "Da Vinci Code"? Which is it your opinion
on this book and had an impact in term of passage?
JLR: What quite naturally brings us to the following question about "the da
effect Vinci codes". I already answered it partially. What we saw last summer
was only before guard of a true "Tsunami of the Magdaléen type" which will be
amplified by the innumerable broadcasts television to come. Chain CBS had been
present in September for the emission "sixty minutes" one of the ten programs
most looked at the USA for fifteen years. One does not know yet the date of
programming, I wait to be informed of it from one day to another. On this
subject I must say that they gave the impression to me to prepare a program
demystificator which is well in the style of the emission. Japanese television
diffused, veiled three weeks, a program in which the director Takeshi Kinato
(gigantic high-speed motorboat in its country) played the part of the basic
tourist being extasiant in front of the mystery of the Abbé Saunière.
Rai2 diffused in Italy several programs on the subject in the last six months. A
film was carried out also in September by a Danish or Norwegian team (I do not
remember any more). I gave an interview last Sunday has NBC, another American
chain, and they return next Sunday with a team of eight people. Meanwhile, I
will have received another team which prepares a report for Sky Channel. They
are million people who will discover RLC on their screen in the mobility of the
code da Vinci. Imagine the result!
WM: You devote, in your work, a passage to the "new forgers of the business"?
Is this with saying that the business of Rennes-le-Chateau derives towards a
mercenary attitude without scruples?
JLR: The business of Rennes does not derive more than formerly towards a
"mercenary attitude without scruples". There always were the crafty one which
tried, by means of false documents, to be made some under with the detriment
gogos. It human east. How many works are based on documents miraculeusement
found and of which nobody never could establish with certainty which they were
authentic. I tell in my books some anecdotes personally lived during which
elements appeared maintaining very discussed. I think that my testimony is
interesting because I have, undoubtedly, be the first to which one tried of the
monnayer. I expect a green heart flight! Who knows if we do not have in
prospects some duels in the paddle blafarde for the plate of RLC intended
to wash the honour of forgers who ended up believing in their own mystification?
WM: What do you think of the business known as of the transfer of the tomb of
the Abbé Saunière and the closing of the cemetery?
JLR: I think that it would have been more judicious and less expensive public
monies to restore rather fall it from the abbot in the cemetery than to install
it with the site of my old kitchen. This said, I believe that there was an
association for the restoration of the tomb of the abbot Saunière (A.R.T.B.S)
who, if it had been more active, would have can be able to prevent that. I still
will be made friends...
WM: Other projects of writing?
JLR: I have in preparation a work which will be the newspaper apocryphal book
(and presented like such) of Marie Dénarnaud. History seen by the small end of
the spyglass to some extent. It will act of the "newspaper of good of priest of
countryside" (of under-Bernanos!). Between remarks grivoises, receipts of
kitchens and councils of housewife, it will act of an amusing exercise which
will not claim to leave this diagram. A expensive editor in our hearts is
strongly interested and I promised to him of him to keep early product of it. I
also have at the head a novel which I will write in English because I intend it
for the American northern public under a pseudonym (I do not want to be made
assassinate by Monseigneur Aringarosa!)
WM: Your restaurant, "the table of the Abbé", it for many is impassioned your
famous conferences of the summer. Can you give us an outline of the next
JLR: The program of the conferences of the summer is being prepared. Nothing
is still stopped so much it is difficult to fix the dates according to the
availability of the speakers here the projects which we at the head with the
"Atelier bookshop Impressed" of our friends Nicolas and Céline. * Michel Lamy
(who was prevented the last year) promised to us to make his possible to come to
speak to us about the relationship between work from Jules Vernes and RLC. In
this year of the centenary of Jules Vernes they would be extremely judicious. *
Didier Convard, author of the data base "the secret triangle, was approached and
is filled with enthusiasm with the idea to come to speak in the gardens from the
abbot (abbot D.?)......... * We wish to organize a round table around the topic
"Rennes-le-Chateau in the media". * Another round table will be done on the
effect of da Vinci codes with RLC. * It would be interesting to invite Franck
Daffos to present his book. If it wishes a friendly tournament I want to play
the game well. * I do not despair to make reconsider Jean-Jacques Velasco the
topic "flying objects not-identified thus have a heart? "* I also think of Serge
Guyader which could speak to us about "Prophecies and RLC", like with Richard D.
Nolane, highly skilled cryptozoologist and author of an interesting data base
on.... Harry Dickson.
WM: Thank you Jean-Luc Robin and good luck with your book.